No Admin Abuse being_careful - Abused by pifferanus

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  1. being_careful

    being_careful New guy

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    Member Name being_careful

    Admin who abused: pifferanus

    Your In-Game Name: i'll be careful

    In which server: Dust2 24/7

    What is your steam ID or IP: STEAM_0:1:1069475

    Evidence of any: *DEAD* i'll be careful : this guy's a faggot
    *DEAD* i'll be careful : spamming pos
    *DEAD* WHX | pifferanus : who
    *DEAD* LiniaKahoLe : pus?
    *DEAD* i'll be careful : everyone on CT
    Kicked by Console
    Kicked
    Connecting to 104.156.224.150:27015...
    Connection accepted by 104.156.224.150:27015
    * Privileges set

    BUILD 1383 SERVER (0 CRC)
    Server # 170

    *DEAD* i'll be careful : everyone next round getting clapped
    *DEAD* i'll be careful : cursing is now against the rules?
    *DEAD* WHX | pifferanus : watch ur language
    WHX | pifferanus : read forum for full list of rules
    jabbaduhhut : what did he do
    i'll be careful : is it against the rules?
    unknown : type /rules
    i'll be careful : wasn't racist
    i'll be careful : ?...
    i'll be careful : didn't camp
    LoOPer : yo admin hes talkin to u
    Lol : don't smoke
    i'll be careful : don't have abusive sprays
    Lol : it's injurious
    i'll be careful : so, you just fucking kicked me
    i'll be careful : for nothing.
    *** LoOPer killed i'll be careful with a headshot from m4a1 ***
    i'll be careful : because hurt feelings
    *DEAD* i'll be careful : i didn't spam, i didn't post porn, i wasn't being racist
    *DEAD* i'll be careful : so what's up
    *DEAD* RoSaRiO.CeNtRaL_ArGeNtInA =LGK= : aahha
    *DEAD* WHX | pifferanus : ill ban ya if u keep it up too
    *DEAD* unknown : lol


    Description of what happened: As anyone who knows, I like to talk shit during in-game matches. I was fragged by a player through the box at long and just jokingly said 'spamming pos, everyone getting clapped next round.' Pifferanus took umbrage with this for some odd reason and immediately kicked me. We argued back and forth for a bit, and then I disrespected him and he banned me for 20 mins for admin disrespect (not gonna lie, I did disrespect him -- I think he's a bitch for kicking me). He told me to read the rules, which I did. I typed /rules and found that I didn't break a single one. I thought shit talking was part of the game, no? I thought it was fine to talk shit as long as you weren't being racist or overtly disrespectful to the admins. I've even seen admins talk shit to players in a fun/joking way. I didn't know I was playing with people whose feelings got hurt by the slightest insult to their character.

    I want to make it clear that I'm not contesting the 20 minute ban; I deserved it. I said 'fuck you' to him and called him a bitch, which I think he is for kicking me.

    I've played in this server and others; I jokingly talk massive amounts of shit for jokes and giggles. Even my profile picture on STEAM is one big joke. It's all in good fun, though. Even before this, if someone was playing me and outfragged me, I'd respond "kid cheats," knowing full well that they don't. It's just me joking around and having a good time. I've been playing on WH for a while now, usually under different names. Some of them:

    htriber
    rebirth
    i'll be careful

    Others joke on me too (given my name) and when I'm flashed/fragged, they'll say 'oh i guess you weren't being careful then, huh.' It's all in good fun, I thought.

    I want to be clear here: I'm not contesting the ban. I called him a bitch and told him 'fuck you,' which falls under Admin Disrespect. I'm contesting being kicked in the first place, which I thought I didn't deserve, considering I followed the rules, as per listed in the server. I didn't camp, wasn't racist, don't have abusive sprays, etc.

    I just wanted to bring this to attention. I don't give a shit if Pifferanus gets told not to do anything or not, but I want this being on record because I think what he did was wrong. Sure, I acted like an asshole, but he was wrong in kicking me in the first place.

    Ciao.
     
  2. being_careful

    being_careful New guy

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    Oh, and this was my ban:


    [AMXBans] Banned by Admin: WHX | pifferanus
    [AMXBans] You can complain about your ban @ www.wristhax.com
    [AMXBans] Reason: 'Disrespect'
    [AMXBans] Duration: '20 minutes'
    [AMXBans] Your SteamID: 'STEAM_0:1:1069475'

    When I try reconnecting, it says:

    [AMXBans] You have been banned from this Server by Admin WHX | pifferanus.
    [AMXBans] There are 6 days , 23 hours , 38 minutes and 38 seconds left of your ban.
    [AMXBans] Banned Nickname : i ' ll be careful
    [AMXBans] Reason : ' Racism/Disrespect ( updated by unknown ) '
    [AMXBans] You can complain about your ban @ www.wristhax.com
    [AMXBans] Your SteamID : ' STEAM_0 : 1 : 1069475 '

    So, they are literally fabricating evidence on me. Good to know.
     
  3. Pifferanus1

    Pifferanus1 WristHaX Addict

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    yes, your ban was updated to 1 week because of your behavior. i think all the proof lies here and in your chat logs.
     
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    My behavior? Admin disrespect states that I was banned for 20 minutes, which I dutifully accept. I'm not contesting that. I called you a bitch and said 'fuck you.' That's admin disrespect and I can agree with that. I'm not, under any circumstances, disagreeing with that.

    Where is the other charge(s) coming from? The punishment does not, by any means, fit the crime so to speak. I didn't even use any racial slurs during our disagreement, so I don't know where that charge is even coming from. It's nonsensical and we both have the same chat logs, so please tell me where this other charge is coming from. As per our discussion(s) in-game from around the time you banned/kicked me, I never called you a racial epithet. So please, I want to know. I also want 'unknown' to speak up since he was the one who seemingly updated it.

    You have kids blatantly cheating in servers not getting punished this severely, but you're going to ban me for a week because of your hurt feelings. That is astonishing to me.
     
  5. albert

    albert Houston's Finest Staff Member

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    If you're going to c&p your log then don't leave out the last part before your ban

    Apr 28, 2018 6:54:23 pm faggot WristHaX.com | Dust2 24/7 [1000FPS|NYC/gameME]
    Apr 28, 2018 6:54:21 pm suck mny dick WristHaX.com | Dust2 24/7 [1000FPS|NYC/gameME]
    Apr 28, 2018 6:54:00 pm that's for sure WristHaX.com | Dust2 24/7 [1000FPS|NYC/gameME]
    Apr 28, 2018 6:53:58 pm you're a bitch WristHaX.com | Dust2 24/7 [1000FPS|NYC/gameME]
    Apr 28, 2018 6:53:55 pm be for real WristHaX.com | Dust2 24/7 [1000FPS|NYC/gameME]
    Apr 28, 2018 6:53:53 pm i bet you think blacks who say 'nigga' are being racist to one another? WristHaX.com | Dust2 24/7 [1000FPS|NYC/gameME]
    Apr 28, 2018 6:53:44 pm i said the 'n' word, not to be racist, but as a form of comaraderie WristHaX.com | Dust2 24/7 [1000FPS|NYC/gameME]
    Apr 28, 2018 6:53:24 pm for fucking what? WristHaX.com | Dust2 24/7 [1000FPS|NYC/gameME]
    Apr 28, 2018 6:53:16 pm so what's up
     
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    albert Houston's Finest Staff Member

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    Can you not read? I admitted to calling him a dick, saying 'fuck you.' Congratulations, I also said that he should suck my dick. I did disrespect him and I didn't say I didn't.

    Read the original post, albert. I admitted to that. Sooo, what now? Actually read the thread before you start instigating.
     
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    Hokay Part Time Detective

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    I'll make this short and sweet.

    Reading through the chat logs, I would say you're lucky I'm on vacation and wasn't in the server. I would have given you a permanent ban, and feel like it would be warranted. I don't care where you play, when you are disrespectful to admins in the servers, you're just asking for trouble. You have been excessively toxic in this thread as well, as if you're pushing limits just to be an ass. It's immature and ridiculous honestly.

    I have a very short list of admins, and none of them have given me or anyone else that I know of trouble. They are all welcoming, and do a good job in making the server a fair and fun place to play. People like you, however, are a dime a dozen. You hop from server to server talking all kinds of crap from the safety of your keyboard, and get your panties in a bind the minute someone decides not to tolerate it.

    There is a difference in occasional shit talking and outright obnoxiousness and disrespect. There is no doubt in my mind that you represent the latter. I'll support a week's ban from what I have seen from the chat logs and in this thread, and give you one simple bit of advice.

    You are more than welcome to play in the server when your ban expires. If you are treated badly by an admin and have done nothing to deserve it, bring it to my attention here, and I will deal with it in a professional manner. However, if you start trying to bait a response or illicit a negative reaction, your ban will be renewed and it will be permanent.

    I'm glad you play in our servers, but no one is above reproach. Please play nicely, and try not to be an insufferable jerk when you do play.

    Thank you, I have nothing else to say.
     
  9. albert

    albert Houston's Finest Staff Member

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    You never once stated that you got your 7 day ban after telling him to suck your dick. My fuse is short with people like you so keep up your witty smart ass response and you will be banned from the community, indefinitely. Try me.
     
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    I have a serious question now: How am I supposed to have a debate without being consistently threatened about being banned from the community and/or server? I have genuine rebuttals to make, but I feel as if I'm unable to make them because if I do so, it'll be considered disrespect, even if I stand up for myself. The last two posts in particular are very threatening.

    So, what am I to do? Just be silent and allow you to make charges against my character and/or statements, without clarifying my position(s)? I'm not even asking this to instigate or be disrespectful, so please inform me.
     
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    albert Houston's Finest Staff Member

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    You can rebuttal without being a smart ass and coming across as a complete asshole.

    Can you not read? I admitted to calling him a dick, saying 'fuck you.' Congratulations, I also said that he should suck my dick. I did disrespect him and I didn't say I didn't.

    Read the original post, albert. I admitted to that. Sooo, what now? Actually read the thread before you start instigating.

    Hmm.. Can I not read? Clearly I can. Congratulating me? Trying to belittle me? Clearly you are being disrespectful. And that whole second part you wrote is just complete ignorance. Clearly you were intentionally trying to walk the line of stating your case and being a smart ass. I threaten with a permanent ban because I'm not one to go back and forth with someone like you so I'm trying to save you from a permanent ban before you keep opening up your mouth.
     
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    By threatening a permanent ban, you immediately create a space that is unsafe for anyone to agree/disagree, launch a complaint or criticize. It's the equivalent of someone waving a gun and saying, "please argue against me, I dare you." If I say anything that is considered disrespectful or a "smart ass comment," then I'm going to be banned.

    Soooo, I guess I won't launch any rebuttals. I'll move on and wait out my week, even if I take umbrage with how the situation was handled.
     
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    Lol.. Ok. I'm Not even going to fancy a response to that. Feel free to join the servers back once your ban is done. Respect admins and don't antagonize. Bye.
     
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